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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelsey1224 View Post
    excited...sad...depressed...that's it's all ending tonight. I will miss Lost!
    I will not be sad to see this one go...I have watched since the begining but have been "LOST" since then. I still plan to be lost after it wraps up tonight...

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    what the hades was that ????

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    'Lost' addresses years of questions in finale
    By Frazier Moore, Ap Television Writer 26 mins ago

    NEW YORK – Jack Shephard saves the island.

    The abandoned jetliner takes to the skies with many of the other castaways safely on board.

    And back at home, everyone gathers for what appears to be a tender funeral reception for themselves.

    In its finale Sunday, "Lost" chipped away at the mountain of questions that have risen since its premiere six years ago.

    Not surprisingly, not all the mysteries were resolved. But in the end, everyone looked blissful and full of smiles as the room was flooded with light.

    The two-and-one-half-hour-long conclusion should keep "Lost" fans busy theorizing long after the ABC series' final fade-out.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100524/...NsawNwcmludA--


    I missed most of it - caught the last 30 minutes or so ....

    4 toed statue ?? What happened to the kids on Oceanic 815 ?? Why was Ben sitting outside ??



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    For those who didn't realize it, Kate and Sawyer both died in the jetliner after it passed over a dying Jack. It crashed on the beach. I just don't know how Hurley died. Made a lot of sense to me. They died through out their time on the island just as we saw it. The flash sideways was limbo because they had not come to terms with it. In the end they all finally accepted it and joined each other to "move on" together.

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    Sucky ending to a great show. We fans said from Season 2 they were dead and in Purgatory! What the crud was all the Darma junk for??????

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    This is what writers do when they get backed into a corner that they can't get out of. Say they're all dead and make it about the characters instead of the island. I think the island's mysteries never really did get resolved except for the "light" (which is just so played out). It would have been nice to see the island really go down in a blaze of glory. Where is its closure?

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    if it was a dream and they all died during the plane crash, then I am so pissed. if they needed some help, my retarded neighbor could've written a better ending. geeeezus.

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    WHERE WAS THE BLACK GUY WITH THE SON NAMED WALT??? THEY WERE COMPLETELY LEFT OUT OF THIS FINALE. THE ENDING MADE NOOOOO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!! IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATED BETTER ENDING, THEY NEED TO SHOW IT!!

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    0 users liked this comment Please sign in to rate this comment up. Please sign in to rate this comment down. 0 users disliked this commentFinnius 2 minutes ago Report Abuse i thought the episode was great til the last 5 minutes - not sure how I feel about those last 5 yet. however, every single person posting here was clearly not paying attention. Christian Shepherd said there is no "now" here, some of them died before you Jack and some of them died long after you. This clearly indicates that not all of them died on the island (i.e. Sawyer, Desmond, Claire and Kate) and Hurley and Ben's little exchange - you made a good number 2 dude, you made a great number 1 - indicates they carried out their duties on the island for who knows how long. So, they were not all dead from the beginning. The alternate reality LA in season 6 was where they were all dead - in limbo. Once they each died it was where they went until they could move on. Ben wasnt ready. Ana Lucia wasnt ready. What happened on the island was all real, Christian Shepherd stated that quite clearly also. I just wanted it to end on a more island centric note than a closing out of the alternate reality centric note.
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    Lost: Questions We Don't Need Answered
    by Angel Cohn May 21, 2010 3:30 PM

    With Sunday night's incredibly anticipated Lost series finale almost here, we join millions of fans in hoping (though not necessarily expecting) that the last episode resolves some of the show's most burning mysteries: What's Jacob's brother's name? Why was Walt so special? Who built the statue? What is the light? Why can't women get pregnant on the island? Who told Ben how to summon Smokey? Why can't any character ever ask a single follow-up question?... We could go on and on. However, there are plenty of other open questions from the past six seasons of this brilliant, albeit often frustrating, program that we hope are actually not addressed in the finale, especially if that leaves more time for the bigger themes and storylines to come together in a satisfying way. Here's what we don't need to know:

    The Hurley Bird
    A long time ago we would have cared about the giant green bird that sounded like it was speaking Hurley's name. Did it really say that, did he just hallucinate it? What kind of bird was it? For now, we're just chalking it up to a whisper in the winds or attributing it to the fact that Hurley is a bit of a head case.

    The Polar Bears
    How did the polar bears get to the island? What sort of freak accident led to them being in a tropical climate that isn't their natural habitat? Maybe they were just really good swimmers, or there was a freak ice floe? Could the Dharma folks actually fit them into their subs? We don't care.

    Henry Gale
    Ben impersonated Henry Gale, who had crash-landed on the island via a hot-air balloon. But how did Gale manage to get there? Where did he come from? Given that the show never explored his origins, we're going with the fact that the name is a Wizard of Oz reference and assume that maybe he just came from somewhere over the rainbow.

    Room 23
    The Dharma Initiative created this creepy room to conduct psychological experimentation on people, and the Others sure took advantage of it. But what was the real purpose of it? Did someone in the writers room really just watch A Clockwork Orange a few too many times and think the room would be a good way to brainwash Walt, and later Karl? Maybe that's as good an explanation as any.

    Kate's Horse
    Why did Kate keep seeing horses? It's doubtful that they could have been the Smoke Monster, since he only seems to be able to appear as people that died on the island. Unless Smokey has more animal instincts than we've been made aware of.

    Pierre Chang's Changing Names
    We've got a host of Dharma-related questions, but finding out why Dr. Chang went by different monikers on the tapes for each of the hatches is way low on our list. Perhaps he was just a frustrated actor?

    The Food Drops
    Why didn't the food drops stop after the Dharma purge? Was there no way for anyone off island to realize that they shouldn't continue? And who exactly was making the drops and how did the planes fly over the island? We admit that we're sort of curious about this, but not finding out the truth won't haunt us one bit.

    Annie
    Ben had few people that were nice to him in his life. But one was his childhood friend Annie, who seemingly left the island never to be heard from again. We used to wonder about who she grew up to be, but considering everything that has happened since then, we hope the girl never had anything more to do with the island - for her sake.

    The Books
    We spent a great deal of time analyzing all of the books whose titles were glimpsed on the show, but while we acknowledge that are thematic similarities between Lost and, say, A Wrinkle in Time or The Brothers Karamazov or Slaughterhouse-Five, none of those tomes appear to contain any clues that could help us unravel the series' complex mythology. We're just going to chalk it up to a writer who took advantage of the "You Might Also Like" feature on Amazon by typing in "time travel" and "daddy issues."

    The Golf Course
    There hasn't been a lot of time for recreation lately on show, what with all of the trekking from one island to the other, but the golf course created by Hurley was one of the few lighter moments in the early seasons. We presume that it now looks overgrown and disheveled, but how did the Losties get the grass tamed in the first place? Wouldn't jungle grass grow pretty high? Perhaps there was a Dharma riding lawnmower that we just never saw...

    Before the finale, take some time to reflection the best and worst episodes this show had to offer. We're still scarred from Bai Ling.

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    'Lost' finale stirs much debate the day after

    The final episode fuels debate, praise, complaints, as well as more questions the day after

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Can we all agree that Jack Shephard is dead? That he died in a bamboo grove on the lost island, gravely injured after saving it, his eye seen in close-up shutting as the series' final shot?

    There may not be much more that viewers will agree on after Sunday's gargantuan, challenging conclusion to "Lost."

    For six seasons, the ABC mystical thriller has kept its audience guessing and arguing as well as entertained. But after the much-awaited finale, criticism and debate went into hyperdrive.

    "One word. just amazing. the circle of life. wow. just wow," cheered franciSpace among a flurry of Twitter postings Monday morning.

    And linenlimbs reported, "my dish network box won't turn on today; i think it committed suicide after that devastatingly beautiful episode."

    On the other hand, tomuky declared, "Thank goodness its over. A show with a million plot lines in a losing attempt to appear as an intelligent show."

    On YouTube, viewers rushed to upload their video responses to the episode.

    One "Lost" fan, her face lit in an eerie blue glow, wept and choked out remarks such as "'Lost' is my life" and "I don't understand why it had to end" for nearly five minutes.

    "I don't know what the hell just happened," said another YouTube contributor in a blistering critique.

    The last series finale to fuel such fierce anticipation and spark such after-the-fact dispute was, of course, "The Sopranos," in 2007. Did Tony die in the restaurant a nanosecond after the final blackout, or did he carry on his mobster life with nothing changed? "Sopranos" fans still disagree.

    Now, to no one's surprise, the "Lost" finale has joined its notorious, celebrated ranks.

    But can we all agree that, even now, viewers weren't given the answer to one long-standing, seemingly fundamental question: Where was the doggone island?

    Good. That's settled. Or not.

    The two-and-one-half-hour special drew an average audience of 13.5 million viewers, beating NBC's "Celebrity Apprentice" finale by 4.2 million viewers, according to the Nielsen Co. The two-hour retrospective that preceded the "Lost" finale drew an audience of 9.8 million viewers.

    But mysteries continued to plague much of that audience Monday in the "Lost" hangover.

    Sure, Jack was dead. But what about the other castaways? What was the state of their mortality, both on the island and in the so-called sideways universe that showed their parallel existence elsewhere, mostly in Los Angeles?

    "Both stories seem to be part of their limbo, part of their purgatory," said Chris Seay, author of "The Gospel According to 'Lost.'"

    The finale, he said, "wasn't what I hoped." Pointing to the pledge from "Lost" producers that the island wasn't a purgatory for the victims of the Oceanic airliner crash, Seay suggested that the outcome of the series amounted to "sort of a misdirection."

    He cited the finale's closing scenes in an L.A. church where many of the former castaways — all of them dead — convened, with Jack, apparently, the guest of honor.

    With light flooding the sanctuary, it seemed a vision of a blissful afterlife, or the gateway leading there.

    "It was the most compelling part of the show — people that you love being present together," Seay said. "They spoke about going to the place where you can be with the people that you love. This is how we speak of heaven, but in the most common understanding, it's a place where people that you love are reunited."

    That's all well and good, he said with a laugh.

    "But now, many of us are going to be having conversations about who died when, and what was the island. These were questions you would hope we would have gotten a little further down the road on."

    On the other hand, Nikki Stafford "absolutely loved" the finale.

    The author of "Finding Lost," book-length guides to each season of the series, Stafford argues that the plane really crashed on the island, the castaways survived, and went on to have all the experiences viewers saw there.

    But in her view, the sideways world is their purgatory. And since "there is no 'now' here," in the words of Jack's father at the church, all those gathered there had died, at one time or another, after living their own respective lives.

    "They reconverged for Jack's sake," Stafford said, "and this purgatory was an afterlife scenario, shown through Jack's lens."

    Stafford, who currently is writing her Season 6 "Finding Lost" volume for October publication, then acknowledged, "Other people are going to see it differently, I'm sure."

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    Okay...for those that didn't understand the ending...here goes:

    The island was real. The plane crash was real. Everything that happened on the island, including some of the Losties getting off the island for 3 years, going back in time, etc...was real! They did NOT die in the first plane crash as some people have thought. As Christian Shepard (why didn't I get that reference before) told Jack...what happened on the island was the most important thing that happened to all of them.

    The sideways/parallel storyline was their purgatory(for lack of a better word). It wasn't until all of them remembered what had happened that they were able to 'move on'...to heaven. As Christian told Jack...they were all dead. Some died before him (Juliette, Charlie, Shannon, Boone, Sayid, Jin, Sun, etc.) and some died after (Sawyer, Kate, Claire, Desmond and Penny.) In addition Hurley and Ben also died after Jack...although they may have died waaaay after...maybe even centuries after...when Hurley found himself a replacement. Some of the other people in the sideways life weren't ready to move on yet. For example, Ben said he had things to work out. Desmond told Daniel Faraday's mother, Eloise, that he wasn't taking Daniel with him. Because she had guilt over killing her son, she still had to work things out before they could move on.

    The purpose of the island was to create a balance between good and evil and it had many protectors...some before Jacob. His mother and her mother were just two. What made things different was that Jacob created the MIB (Fake-Locke...whatever you want to call him.)

    Jacob brought many candidates to the island to kill the MIB (which he, himself, could not do.) Unfortunately, the MIB would always get to them first and corrupt them. The Others were people who had been corrupted by the MIB. Richard Alpert convinced Jacob that he needed someone to work with him (thus Richard's immortality).

    Jacob even brought the Dharma initiative to the island as part of his plan. But the MIB got to Ben Linus and corrupted him. Ben always thought he was working for Jacob when he was, in fact, being manipulated by the MIB. So, Ben and the Others killed off the Dharma group...as well as started killing off the Losties...as part of the MIB's plan to kill off another group of candidates.

    One key point to the story was the Jacob wanted his candidates to have something he and his brother never had...free will. So it was that he gave them the choice on who would replace him and kill the MIB.

    I'm sure there are other details. For example, Michael wasn't in the sideways storyline because he had failed on the island. None of the Others were there either.

    Hope that helps explain things.
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    Mostly I agree with what you've said. Except one. Jacob did NOT create the "MIB" or smoke monster. The smoke monster was created when his brother went down the light and came back corrupted. He went down for greed and was turned evil. This is MY take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme23 View Post
    Mostly I agree with what you've said. Except one. Jacob did NOT create the "MIB" or smoke monster. The smoke monster was created when his brother went down the light and came back corrupted. He went down for greed and was turned evil. This is MY take on it.
    Good point. I didn't mean create in the literal sense. Jacob did, however, beat his brother up and send his unconscious body down into the light. His brother did come back corrupted...but he didn't go for greed. He just wanted off of the island. However, he did kill their 'mother' when he found out she wasn't really their mother and that she had killed those who could get him off the island.
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    A friend gave me an issue of TV Guide May 24 - June 6 with a special cover. The image is over 1,000 small images from the show in a Dharma logo setup. It says you can download a 16X20 copy at the TV Guide Facebook page ... but I can't seem to find the link. HELP !!
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