Thread: Did any of you hear about this?

Originally Posted by justme23

Well, technically no... since I'm told suicide is illegal... I've never actually bothered to find out if that's true though so I could be wrong.

At any rate... while I would want to try and save someone... and I would find it mind boggling if no one else tried either... I would imagine that the police and fire that were there were keeping ppl back and preventing any civilians from going in... knowing full well that they would only make the situation worse... so I can't really find fault in them for not helping. It's sad, what happened... but I believe when God wants you, he takes you... so, he would have gone one way or another that day.

Suicide is not illegal = immoral yes illegal no. The only reason Jack Kevorkian went to prison was that he was assisting people in committing suicide not because they went out and purchased what they needed and killed themselves. If it was illegal when someone kills themselves by using a gun then the gun seller would be arrested. It doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by SLance68

Suicide is not illegal = immoral yes illegal no. The only reason Jack Kevorkian went to prison was that he was assisting people in committing suicide not because they went out and purchased what they needed and killed themselves. If it was illegal when someone kills themselves by using a gun then the gun seller would be arrested. It doesn't happen.

Not to change the subject but I heard on the news that Jack Kavorkian died the other day.

Originally Posted by janelle

They had an hour to figure it out!! The guy was only in water up to his neck. Get 3 or 4big guys to go out there and drag him in. How hard is that?

It wasn't his time if he killed himself. God had no hand in his death, only he did and that was not God's plan at all for him.

If you want to go with the God idea, does he not give us free choice? To make our own choice? Obviously it was his time because he's dead.

God gives us free choice but He doesn't want us to kill ourselves any more than He wants us to kill others. Life is a gift from God. Only God can control life and death. Many people who have tried to kill themselves have had a change of mind later and glad they were stopped. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Cities need to stop spending money on frivolous stuff if they haven't budgeted for the important life saving programs of the community.

Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge

They had no way of knowing if this guy was high or on some kind of drugs... clearly not "right thinking" because most people do not just walk out into the Bay. I will not fault the firefighters or police for not attempting a rescue that they were not trained for. One of the things I was taught was assess a situation - if you can not safely make they rescue - don't create a situation where you have two victims ( or more ) instead of one. They tried to get a Coast Guard boat in ... water was too shallow; they tried to get a heli ... already on a call. I am surprised no one tried to get him or go talk to him ... but I don't know everything that was available or the parameters of the situation.

If that is true than the press is milking this story for political reasons. If they tried all the things that was possible at the time to save him than it's not true they stood around doing nothing. That makes it a very different story. They had a boat and a helicopter which is more money than cold water suits and training. Not all cities have everything in their rescue department to save everyone. They did what they could with what they had at the time. Seems like they had quite a lot really.

I just believe people should at least try to save him or anyone even if they were trying to kill themselves. But I wonder if he was if it took that long too.