Thread: I couldn't believe my eyes folks...

VERY, VERY INTERESTING !! A MUST PLAY TO THE

END.

Where is the airplane........that crashed into

The Pentagon.........?????

Where are the airplane parts???

Go to this website and watch this

Film.........do it quickly as it has

Already been pulled off several web sites

Already!........afterwards

You'll see why!

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

Read this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1227842.html

http://users.adelphia.net/~earthwatch/

This is interesting as well..

Originally Posted by cavemtmomma

Read this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1227842.html

And while you are at it take a look at this http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/Esp Phase two.

Besides this is an old topic that seems to pop up often: http://www.bigbigforums.com/showthre...entagon+Flight

Originally Posted by Chiizii

Besides this is an old topic that seems to pop up often: http://www.bigbigforums.com/showthre...entagon+Flight

I just made myself suffer reading through the entire thread....I read a few post made by people (one of which was banned) who had common sense. The rest..well....I have no comment.

Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see...

Being as a member of my family was in the Pentagon that day, I will take his eyewitness account over edited, spliced, FX-style video any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Do you believe they *really* blew up the Death Star too ?

my bil was also working in the pentagon that day, & the plane crash was felt & heard all over the dc & surrounding areas.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

The Zacarias Moussaoui trial testimony reminds us of the raw anguish that 9/11 family members continue to live with every day. Via AP: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/14315189.htm

On Monday, nearly every witness cried and needed water or a moment to regain composure. Some wept uncontrollably for brief periods. Most of the 17 jurors and alternates maintained solemn faces that betrayed no emotion. But four women and one man dabbed discreetly at their eyes or noses with tissues or handkerchiefs.

Moussaoui, who is facing a life-or-death decision from this jury, watched and listened to the early witnesses intently, then shifted in his chair to stare straight ahead with a sober look on his face. At a morning break after the judge and jury had left, he said loudly, "Burn, in the USA." At the lunch break, he said, "Hollywood, deadly circus."

Perhaps the day's most dramatic testimony came from 73-year-old C. Lee Hanson, whose granddaughter, Christine, 2 1/2 , was the youngest 9-11 victim.

Hanson said his son, Peter, called him by cellphone from United Airlines Flight 175 to tell him the plane had been hijacked. Peter said he thought the hijackers were going to crash the plane into a building. "Don't worry, Dad, if it happens, it will be quick," Peter said.

"As we were talking," Hanson told jurors, "he said very softly, 'Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God!' And there was a scream in the background." Crying, Hanson said, "I looked at the television and saw the plane fly into the building."

Days later, Hanson traveled to their Massachusetts home to retrieve DNA samples to help medical examiners identifying remains. All that was ever found of his son was a bone a few inches long. Nothing was found of his granddaughter.

Originally Posted by cathych

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

The notion that the Pentagon was not damaged by terrorists who hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and crashed it into the military office complex, but that the whole affair was staged by the U.S. government, has been promulgated by French author Thierry Meyssan in his book, The Frightening Fraud. Meyssan offers no real explanation for what did cause the extensive damage to the Pentagon, asserting only that Flight 77 did not exist, no plane crashed into the Pentagon, and that "the American government is lying."

Unfortunately, the appeal of conspiracy theories has resulted in widespread dissemination of Meyssan's "theory" in France and the USA, particularly in web sites that mirror his work. As Le Nouvel Observateur noted: "This theory suits everyone - there are no Islamic extremists and everyone is happy. It eliminates reality."

The text cited in the example above comes from a Hunt the Boeing! And Test Your Perceptions! web site, one of the English-language mirrors of Meyssan's claims, where readers are invited to ponder a series of questions about why photographs of the damaged Pentagon seemingly show no evidence of a crashed airplane. The answers to the questions are:

1) Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?

Despite the appearances of exterior photographs, the Boeing 757-200 did not "only damage the outside of the Pentagon." It caused damage to all five rings (not just the outermost one) after penetrating a reinforced, 24-inch-thick outer wall. As 60 Minutes II reported in their "Miracle of the Pentagon" episode on 28 November 2001, the section of the Pentagon into which the hijacked airliner was flown had just been reinforced during a renovation project:

"We made several modifications to the building as part of that renovation that we think helped save people's lives," says Lee Evey, who runs a billion-dollar project to renovate the Pentagon. They’ve been working on it since 1993. The first section was five days from being finished when the terrorists hit it with the plane.

The renovation project built strength into the 60-year-old limestone exterior with a web of steel beams and columns.

"You have these steel tubes and, again, they go from the first floor and go all the way to the fifth floor," says Evey. "We have everything bolted together in a strong steel matrix. It supports and encases the windows and provides tremendous additional strength to the wall."

When the plane hit at 350 miles an hour, the limestone layer shattered. But inside, those shards of stone were caught by a shield of cloth that lines the entire section of the building.

It is a special cloth that helps prevent masonry from fragmenting and turning into shrapnel. The cloth is also used to make bullet-resistant vests.

All of this, especially the steel, held up the third, fourth and fifth floors. They stayed up for 35 minutes. You can see them through the smoke, suspended over the hole gouged by the jet. Only after the evacuation did the heat melt the new steel away. Evey says that without the reconstruction, the floors might have collapsed immediately.

Exterior photographs are misleading because they show only the intact roof structures of the outer rings and don't reveal that the plane penetrated all the way to the ground floor of the third ring. As a U.S. Army press release noted back on 26 September 2001, one engine of the aircraft punched a 12-foot hole through the wall of the second ring:

On the inside wall of the second ring of the Pentagon, a nearly circular hole, about 12-feet wide, allows light to pour into the building from an internal service alley. An aircraft engine punched the hole out on its last flight after being broken loose from its moorings on the plane. The result became a huge vent for the subsequent explosion and fire. Signs of fire and black smoke now ring the outside of the jagged-edged hole.

Recall that when the first airliner was flown into a World Trade Center tower on September 11 — before it was known that the "accident" was really part of a deliberate terrorist attack — newscasters were speculating that a small plane had accidentally flown into the side of the tower, because the visible exterior damage didn't seem as extensive as what people thought a large airliner would cause. Even though the two airplanes flown into the World Trade Center towers were travelling faster at the time of impact than the Pentagon plane was (400 MPH vs. 350 MPH), hit aluminum-and-glass buildings rather than reinforced concrete walls, and didn't dissipate much of their energy striking the ground first (as the Pentagon plane did), they still barely penetrated all the way through the WTC towers.

Below is a recent (11 March 2002) photograph of the the rebuilding effort underway at the Pentagon, demonstrating that far more than just the "outside" of the building was damaged and needed to be repaired:




2) Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?

As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building; nonetheless, as described by The New York Times, the plane still hit not "just the ground floor" but between the first and second floors:

The Boeing 757 crashed into the outer edge of the building between the first and second floors, "at full power," Mr. Rumsfeld said. It penetrated three of the five concentric rings of the building.

Another account of the crash described:

The plane banked sharply and came in so low that it clipped light poles. It slammed into the side of the Pentagon at an estimated 350 miles per hour after first hitting the helipad. The plane penetrated the outer three rings of the building. The jet fuel exploded, which sent a fireball outward from the impact point. About 30 minutes after the crash, a cross-section of the building collapsed, but only after enough time had elapsed for rescue workers to evacuate all injured employees.

The fire was so hot that firefighters could not approach the impact point itself until approximately 1 P.M. The collapse and roof fires left the inner courtyard visible from outside through a gaping hole. The area hit by the plane was newly renovated and reinforced, while the areas surrounding the impact zone were closed in preparation for renovation, so the death toll could have been much higher if another area had been hit.