Thread: Isn't This Racism ??

"They took the black women, with the black man weak
Made to watch as they changed the paradigm
Of our village"

From a historical stand point this poem is very interesting. I expect it to make it way into college text.

Originally Posted by MIKAER

Wikipedia
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Since the late 1960s, the word paradigm has referred to a thought pattern in any scientific discipline or other epistemological context. Initially the word was specific to grammar: the 1900 Merriam-Webster dictionary defines its technical use only in the context of grammar or, in rhetoric, as a term for an illustrative parable or fable. Also, in linguistics, Ferdinand de Saussure used paradigm to refer to a class of elements with similarities.


Scientific paradigm
Main articles: Paradigm shift, Sociology of knowledge, Systemics, Commensurability (philosophy of science), and Confirmation holism
Philosopher of science Thomas Kuhn gave this word its contemporary meaning when he adopted it to refer to the set of practices that define a scientific discipline during a particular period of time. Kuhn himself came to prefer the terms exemplar and normal science, which have more exact philosophical meanings. However, in his book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions Kuhn defines a scientific paradigm as:

what is to be observed and scrutinized,
the kind of questions that are supposed to be asked and probed for answers in relation to this subject,
how these questions are to be structured,
how the results of scientific investigations should be interpreted.
Alternatively, the Oxford English Dictionary defines paradigm as "A pattern or model, an exemplar". Thus an additional component of Kuhn's definition of paradigm is:

how is an experiment to be conducted, and what equipment is available to conduct the experiment.
Thus, within normal science, the paradigm is the set of exemplary experiments that are likely to be copied or emulated. The prevailing paradigm often represents a more specific way of viewing reality, or limitations on acceptable programs for future research, than the much more general scientific method.

Originally Posted by MIKAER

DID YOU DRAW THE CONCLUSION THAT "this chick was a straight up whore." BASED ON THE INFORMATION "woman with the DNA of 3 different men in their panties." SUPPLIED BY THE MEDIA? IF SO, YOU HAVE DRAWN THE CONCLUSION THAT THE DEFENSE WANTS YOU TO DRAW!

Unfortunately none of that information is relevant to the case and in is protected under the RAPE SHEILD LAWS SO INFACT YOU HAVE ALREADY TRIED [through manipulation of the media] THE VICTIM IN THIS RAPE CASE.

i'm not here to argue about the media, i was just stating that i don't have no sympathy for anyone who has the dna of three men (non of the defendant's meaning she willing had sex with atleast 3 people since she changed or washed her panties) her panties when she decides she wants to cry rape.

it is relevant by the way. i guess it would be okay with you IF it had been the dna of the accused.

Originally Posted by pepperpot

Mikaer - Who do you think wrote this? Do you think there was heavy influence by her father?
(It is compelling although I still disagree and have a problem with the last line and it's delivery method.)

Originally Posted by MIKAER

What what I have been able to research she has an extensive private education. She has been writing poetry for quite some time. I would place he understanding of American History to be at collegiate level. I do not think any one person could provide such a wealth of information. You might Google around to find her school curriculum. I suspect she is provided college text materials.
As to the last line of her poem compare it to the ERA, has anything REALLY changed for women?

Mikaer - YOU still have not addressed the question presented to YOU. Who do YOU think wrote this?

I did read that she was privately educated and not only by her father. I have also read and seen that there seems to be a political force aiding her in her education and agenda as well. Who wrote this?

You have also conceded that this is at a much higher lever, collegiate, than to those that this was presented to (middle and high schoolers). Do you feel the material along with its presentation was appropriate for its audience? Especially when read angrily, told the 'whites' to sit and vehemently lectured sensitive material which is over their level of understanding?

Obviously the audience did have problems with this from the reception it received.

As for changes for the 'Africans' and women in this country. Yes, there has been change, plenty of change. Not sure, given YOUR age if you have fully digested how much change there has actually been. You can spout text which supposedly says not much, but from experience, I have seen tremendous change. As stated previously....we're not 100% there yet, but it will happen and it is happening.

The atrocities of the past were multi-generational. The undoing of the injustice and the 'education' and recovery cannot be anything but multi-generational as well. Changes will not happen over night.

Just because this child can recite historical events in a well written poem with passion does not give her the right to make her audience feel uncomfortable, no matter what month it happens to be. Not one of those children in that auditorium has ever participated in slavery, mis-education, etc. but were made to feel as if they had. This child, who speaks of the atrocities, has never experienced them but in her mind, she has, because of her 'education' by those motivated around her. These experiences did not happen to her, yet she is very passionately delivering this to the 'whites'. She is not just being educated, she is being used as a pawn by others. She is not looking to 'grow' or educate others, but to incite and cause feelings of discomfort. Perhaps YOU at a collegiate level, could understand some of the techniques used, but not the audience to which this was presented.

There was a golden opportunity to move past the injustices and use them to create true growth for herself and her audience but it wasn't done. She, who has never experienced them, is bound in rage and will remain there.

okay, pepper, you did say it better (but I still have a better avatar )

At the collegiate level, I had a rare opportunity to actually hear and experience Jesse Jackson make a presentation. He is a very skilled motivational speaker. He can certainly work up a crowd.

I was impressed with his content but was terrified with what was actually happening. The audience, mostly black, became extremely passionate, vocal, excited, agitated and riled. Upon leaving the auditorium, which was quite large, the audience was very vocal and very animated to say the least.....but when asked what the 'message' of Mr. Jackson was....they could not define but responded that he's great! They were excited about the messenger without hearing the message......

A couple years ago, a local flier was circulated among the 'black' community, by the 'black' community to vote for a certain 'black' politician specifically as such....."vote for ***, not because he's black, but because you are black".

They (the blacks) are doing themselves serious mis-justice by supporting someone 'just because they're black' and not on the merits of what this person has to offer. They should be motivated by the message, not just a motivationally skilled 'deliverer'. They themselves are binding themselves by their ignorance and their allegiance to color regardless of its motives. They will follow a particular 'leader' just because of his color and 'popularity' and not be versed on his content/intent. 'Of course we need to support him, he's our brother!'

We are all 'brothers' and 'sisters' and need to support and care for each other, regardless of our color. That is the lesson we all need to learn. We need to look beyond the outer 'color' and see the human being that lives within........that is what the message should be.... There are true opportunities for tremendous growth and advancement of society....she needs to progress 'her' (their) message further.

Mikaer, please make your responses in your words, not others.

Originally Posted by tngirl

(but I still have a better avatar )

In your dreams!

Originally Posted by pepperpot

In your dreams!

Now honestly, tell me that this one is not cuter than yours?