Thread: Sign a petition to make them reveal more on the

Originally Posted by Njean31

i just don't understand that if you've got nothing to hide then what's the big deal?

they can bug my phone.......all they are going to hear is a bunch of nonsense which would bore them to tears. if it catches ONE terrorist organizing and plotting destruction than more power to them.

That isn't the point. It's not about if you have anything to hide or not it's about the violation of civil liberties, the right to privacy, and probably cause.

Originally Posted by mesue

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin


HMMMMM seems Ben and I are in total agreement, he must be another crackpot.

LMAO

Originally Posted by mesue

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin


HMMMMM seems Ben and I are in total agreement, he must be another crackpot.

I'm a crackpot, you're a crackpot, Ben's a crackpot, wouldn't you like to be a crackpot too? I've been called a lot worse. If it means being feed up with Bush trampling on our Contitutional rights, then heck yes I'll wear the crackpot label. Along with the liberal label, the tree hugging label, the anti-American label and all the other labels people like to throw around on those who refuse to buckle under to Bush trying to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

So Bush does something illegal and we're crackpots? How does that compute?

The point here is that what the government is doing is not illegal. I have been to pre-occupied to worry with looking stuff up for you. (ok, I have been too lazy...lol)

Another note, just remember I am not the one that called you guys crackpots. I am suprised the bored didn't crash...I actually defended mesue!!! J/K mesue. Isn't it just grand that we all disaree? Life would be so boring if we didn't.

The university student story is a red herring.This kid made this crap up. boston globe

It rocketed across the Internet a week ago, a startling newspaper report that agents from the US Department of Homeland Security had visited a student at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth at his New Bedford home simply because he had tried to borrow Mao Tse-Tung's ''Little Red Book" for a history seminar on totalitarian goverments.
The story, first reported in last Saturday's New Bedford Standard-Times, was picked up by other news organizations, prompted diatribes on left-wing and right-wing blogs, and even turned up in an op-ed piece written by Senator Edward M. Kennedy in the Globe.

But yesterday, the student confessed that he had made it up after being confronted by the professor who had repeated the story to a Standard-Times reporter.

The professor, Brian Glyn Williams, said he went to his former student's house and asked about inconsistencies in his story. The 22-year-old student admitted it was a hoax, Williams said.

''I made it up," the professor recalled him saying. ''I'm sorry. . . . I'm so relieved that it's over."

The student was not identified in any reports. The Globe interviewed him Thursday but decided not to write a story about his assertion, because of doubts about its veracity. The student could not be reached yesterday.

Your right stresseater the kid was a liar, it was all a hoax. Why this kid lied like this I don't know? Heres another lie and liar for you

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0040420-2.html
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."
President George W. Bush
This quote is from a speech the President made on April 20, 2004, a full two years after he ordered the first wiretap without a court order. Scroll halfway down to read the paragraph with this quote in it. BTW this quote is taken directly from the official white house website.

I have nothing to hide but I still close the door when I use the bathroom, that is just me being silly and wanting my privacy and all that nonsense. LMAO